The Librarian Conundrum of the Emperor's Children

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The existence of a Librarius in the Emperor's Children has been a matter of debate for a few years at this point. This thread is my attempt to gather all references to the Thirds potential utilisation or rejection of such an organisation within the legion.



From Slaves to Darkness:
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The Librarians of the Emperor's Children have few remaining functions as scribes. Other than making occasional notes of ''amusing'' and ''witty'' deaths they have witnessed. Their main duty is to provide psychic support to the physical struggles of their fellow Legionaries.''

Psykers are particularly highly regarded by the Emperor’s Children, both as enemies and within their own ranks. The broadcast terror of an enemy psyker can be enjoyed in its own right as a new sensation, while a Legionnaire psyker can kill his enemies with pleasure or pure sensation - the greatest act of worship for a servant of Slaanesh. Close combat, where the enemy can be touched and directlyl destroyed, is also much favoured by the Emperor's Children. Few of them enter battle without some form of close combat weapon.

The Heresy Blackbooks state:
''There is also the immutable fact that the Emperor Himself was a psyker of unprecedented power, although the scale of His psychic might was such that He was beyond the perils of the Empyrean, and that He Himself had no doubt deliberately made the Thousand Sons what they were, at least in inception. Furthermore, and with greater discretion, Alpharius of the Alpha Legion, Fulgrim of the Emperor's Children and the Night Haunter- Curze himself was a potent psychic oracle by some accounts- all made active use of psykers within the ranks of their Legions, though perhaps with more reservation and less fanfare. These Primarchs had all supported a proposed scheme of structured training within the Space Marine Legions that would allow psychically talented Legionaries to employ their powers safely and in a directed and regimented manner-an initiative that would become known as the Librarius Project during the mid years of the Great Crusade.''

The Emperor's Children were ordered and precise; formation sizes and structure were largely uniform and where they were not it was either a temporary aberration or a deliberate variation for a particular purpose. Within this careful order the squad was the base unit that showed most variation in both size and function. Comprising a handful of Emperor's Children each squad had a particular purpose and specialisation. Squad members were expected to excel in their allotted roles and would train exhaustively to achieve the pinnacle of efficiency and unit cohesion. Notably all of the variations in squad type and equipment found in other Legions were present within the Emperor's Children, as they believed there was no sphere of warfare they could not or should not excel in. There were however certain beliefs held within the Legion's culrure about the superiority of certain martial virrues over others. Beliefs that originated as the opinions and inclinations of their Primarch Fulgrim and filtered down through the ranks as ironclad doctrine that was not to be questioned.
Should every variation in squad type be found in other legions been present this would include variations of units originating from the Thousand Sons.



The novel Scorched Earth is possible sighting of a Librarian of the fields of Istvann V.
Too late, I realised the danger I was in. Lorimarr was a psyker and I a slave to his malicious will.As his fingers touched my battle-helm, just the lightest caress of metal against metal, I was bombarded with a host of painful images. Fire… An endless conflagration and the destruction of a hundred battletanks. A roar of anger, a curse spat from a primarch’s lips in accusation of a brother. Pain and light, so hot it seared the very flesh off my skeleton and turned my bones to ash.I pulled away from Lorimarr’s touch, my ears ringing and a trickle of blood seeping from the corner of my mouth. I wiped it away, about to kill the traitor when I saw that the Emperor’s Children legionary’s eye was open and unblinking. In his last act of attempted murder, he had ended himself.‘Ra’stan…’The voice sounded dim, the edges of my sight still hazed, and odd after images related to my earlier visions assailed me like pieces of a broken kaleidoscope. ‘Ra’stan, are you hurt?’ Usabius was holding me up. Without his intervention I would have fallen, such was the intensity of Lorimarr’s psychic assault. I nodded, my senses returning. ‘He tried to kill you,’ he added, letting me go so I could support myself.‘A Librarian…’‘More like a sorcerer, I think, but yes. ’‘I should not have survived that attack,’ I said, facing my brother. ‘How could I?’‘I don’t know, but you did. Vulkan protects even his wayward sons. ’‘So we might carry on with our mission? ’I did not believe that, but decided not to question the distant providence that had kept me alive. For now, it was enough to know that Lorimarr had been thwarted and he was left for whatever carrion feeders haunted the skies of this place.


Reflection Crack'd which originated much of the debate states:
''They spread out around Fulgrim, each weighing the enormity of what they were doing against the potential for wonder and fresh sensation. That they had managed to subdue a primarch was miracle enough, but to drive out a creature of the warp… Was such a thing even possible Lucius looked from face to face, understanding that no one gathered around the body of Fulgrim could answer that question. The Emperor’s Children had been a Legion reticent in employing Librarians. The genetic quirk that allowed a psyker to wield the power of the warp came about as a result of a genetic mutation, a flaw. And nothing that could be considered a flaw would be permitted within the ranks of Fulgrim’s Legion.''
 
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Space Hulk Traitor Terminator List

This list allowed for Emperor's Children along with the other legions to take a traitor librarian in their force.

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CODEX CHAOS 2E would note that the only exception of the traitor legions librarians dedicating themselves to chaos would be the World Eaters as they had been slaughtered.

The Thousand Sons survived the aftermath of the Horus Heresy by using their sorcerous powers to open a gateway to the Eye of Terror through which they escaped, Many of their continue their study of magic and have become mighty Sorcerer Champions of Tzeentch. During the Heresy Librarians in the other Traitor Legions dedicated themselves to a patron Chaos God and also received new psychic powers in return. The only exception were the Librarians of the Worldeaters Legion, who were hunted down and slain by their Brother Marines as a bloody sacrifice to their lord Khorne, for the Chaos God of war hates all practitioners of the sorcerous arts.
 
CODEX CHAOS SPACE MARINES 3E would note that sorceror is a:
A Chaos Space Marine Librarian who pledges his soul to Chaos becomes a Chaos Space Marine Sorcerer and is gifted with new psychic powers by his patron god.

Slaaneshi sorcerer's would have access to the specific psychic ability fleshy curse and the only mark limited from taking a Sorcerer lord is Khorne.
Fleshy Curse:
A Chaos Sorcerer may use this psychic power in the assault phase instead of making his normal close combat attacks. Pick an enemy model within 2" of the Sorcerer and then take a Psychic test in order to use the power, If the test is successful, roll a D6. If you roll over the victim's Toughness, or you roll a 6 no matter what the victim’s Toughness is, then the victim is slain, with no armour or cover saves allowed (Invulnerable saves may be taken as normal), In addition they tum into a Chaos Spawn if you have a Chaos Spawn model to represent them, but if you do not have a suitable modal, simply remove them as a casually, Chaos Spawn have the same characteristics and special rules as a Beast of Nurgle (see Chaos Gifts above), except that they are treated as independent characters. They are counted as being part of the Chaos army from the moment they are transformed and may attack in that assault phase, as long as they have not already done so previously. Models turned into Chaos Spawn are treated as having been killed for Victory point purposes, even if the Spawn survives the battle.

Sorcerer Lord: The Chaos Lord can be upgraded to a Chaos Sorcerer Lord at a cost of +10 pts. The Sorcerer Lord will have the same characteristics as the Chaos Lord and gains psychic powers. The Chaos Sorcerer Lord can not have a Mark of Khorne.
 
CSM 3.5 CODEX, sorcerors would only be limited to those with the mark of khorne and those with mark of slaanesh would once again have access to it's own psychic powers

Sorcerer A character with this skill is able to use psychic powers. The skill is not available to any model with a Mark of Khorne. See Chaos Psychic Powers special rule.

The Mark of Khorne The Mark of Khorne can be bestowed upon an Independent Character for +10 pts onto every model in a unit for +5 points per model. A model with the Mark of Khorne-fights in a blood-crazed frenzy, preferring to fight hand-to-hand than at range. These Berzerkers despise sorcery, needing no more than their ferocity and a good chainaxe to defeat their enemies. Models with the Mark of Khorme may never have the Sorcerer ability and can never select from the Psychic Abilities & Equipment section of the Armoury. ‘Models with the Mark of Khorne are all gifted with Blood Frenzy.

‘The model may make a single roll on the Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power table, Duplicate powers are re-rolled, but rolls of 1 are not.

Needle of Desire
The Needle of Desire is a long, slim double-pointed needle inscribed with mines within runes to a microscopic level, One half is embedded in the arm of the Champion bearing it where it absorbs the foul narcotics naturally synthesised by Champions of Slaanesh, only for it to be injected into enemics using the other end of the Needle.
The Needle of Desire always wounds on a 2+. Its venom will scourge a wounded enemy with extreme sensations from delirium to despair. The effect is so powerful that many victims will simply remain impaled on the needle and let the venom wash through them destroying them from the inside. Any model wounded and not killed must make a single Leadership test (regardless of how many times they were originally wounded) or take a further D3 wounds with no saves allowed. Note that the Needle is such a precise weapon that it does not ignore armour Saves even if being used by a model with Daemonic Stature.

Rapturous Standard
The Rapturous Standard jingles with the sound of distant chimes and carries the scent of forbidden pleasure. As well as acting as a focus for summoning Daemons once per game (either in the Chaos player's phase or the enemy's) at the start of the Shooting phase its special power may be invoked. Any model within 6" becomes gains the Feel no Pain special ability (see the Wargear list in the Book of Khorne) for the remainder of the current player phase.

Steed of Slaanesh Steed.
These sinuous, graceful daemonic beasts are the preferred mounts of Champions of Slaanesh. Their long whip-like tongues confer the Daemonic Mutation ability and their writhing gait confers the Daemonic Speed ability.
 
帝皇之子中是否存在智库机构,这几年来一直是争论的焦点。我试图通过这个帖子收集所有关于军团第三内部可能使用或拒绝设立此类机构的参考资料。



从奴隶到黑暗:
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异端黑皮书指出:



如果在其他军团中发现小队类型的极限部队变化,这将包括最初数千子的变化。



小说《焦土》中可能出现了伊斯特凡五世田野上的图书管理员。



引发全部消耗的Reflection Crack'd指出:

帝皇之子中是否存在智库机构,这几年来一直是争论的焦点。我试图通过这个帖子收集所有关于第三军团内部可能使用或拒绝设立此类机构的参考资料。



从奴隶到黑暗:
View attachment 149




异端黑皮书指出:



如果在其他军团中发现小队类型的每种变化,这将包括源自千子的部队的变化。



小说《焦土》中可能出现了伊斯特凡五世田野上的图书管理员。



引发大部分争论的 Reflection Crack'd 指出:
你能告诉我这篇文章中使用的图片来自哪里吗?
 
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